J1 Visa is required for every student who wishes to pursue an internship/co-op term in USA for a period ranging from 0-18 months. The other famous and well heard Visas in India are-
H1 – Employment
B1 – Business
L1 – Internal Company Transfer
F1 – Higher Education Full Time
This post is keeping Indian students in mind and it would cover the important aspect or issue called “2 Year Home Rule” according to section 212(E) of INA and all the confusion around it.
General scenario is that the students who pursue an Internship term in USA is asked to stay in India for a period of 2 yrs before (s)/he gets back to USA.
Reason: (S)/he are expected to share the knowledge which (s)/he gained over his/her period of stay in USA with India.
Logically correct, but personally I would not like to have some restriction as this though we are or not prepared for a MS or MBA in near future.
I was in a similar situation and learnt that there are not one but two ways to get out of this. Let us call them Door 1 and Door2. Door 1 is open to only few who get their internship in electronics, marketing etc. An internship in programming has high chances of closing Door1. Door 2 is open to all. Irrespective of what kind of internship you do, Door2 is always a way out, but is very lengthy and time taking.
Note: You might have heard of I-20 which is a document released to students to get their F1 Visa for MS. Similarly you get a DS-2019 form to get your J1 Visa. Procedure to get your DS-2019 is a separate story. Say at this junction you somehow managed to get your DS-2019.
There is one specific section of your DS-2019, Section: 4 which nearly determine whether you can get a waiver from the 2 Year Home Rule or not.
As you can see in the picture, your DS 2019 form has “Subject/Field Code” – 52.1499. Each of these codes has a one on one mapping with specific Field like Electronics, Marketing, Accounting or Programming etc.
The detailed list of all the codes with all the fields with which it is mapped is available at http://polisettisatish.googlepages.com/DS_2019_codes.pdf
Door 1
Step1: Make a note of your Subject Code in Section 4 of DS2019 and find the related Field using the above document.
For example in my case, my Subject code was 52.1499 which correspond to “Marketing” as per the document.
Step2: Now you need to find the Revised Exchange Visitor Skill List available at http://polisettisatish.googlepages.com/SkillList.pdf. In this document each country in the world would mention few areas in which it needs knowledge. For example you would find India requirements (in Page 2476) – meaning India needs knowledge in Group 9N Banking, Group 5U Population Studies etc. It does not list down 9R Marketing or 4H Electronics.
From Step1 you know the area/field which your code refers to. Now you need to find the Group in which this area falls under. For example in my case – “Marketing” corresponds to Group 9R according to the second document.
Step3: Pray your brains out that the group found out in Step 2 (that is 9R in my case)is not present in India’s Skill List in Page 2476. In my case group 9R, is not present at the place where India requirements were listed and hence I can get a waiver through Door1. Incase you find your group as 5U, since it is listed in India’s section in Page2476, you are not eligible to go through Door1.
Step4: Say you decoded that you are open to Door1 from Step3, there is a simple letter which you need to write to the Department of State and get the Waiver. And you are all set to get away from the 2 Year Home Rule.
You can find the letter which I compiled at this link - http://polisettisatish.googlepages.com/WaiverRequest.doc
The Waiver Letter which you get from the Department of State would look like this –
http://polisettisatish.googlepages.com/WaiverLetterfromUSDepartment.jpg
Door2 is pretty complicated. This is a more formal way to get your Waiver and requires you to get No Obligation Certifiate (NOC) from varied government sources of India both at State and Central Levels. One of my senior has gone through this process and I might help you point him if necessary. (See update on 8th Nov 2011 below for complete process)
Happy Interning!!
Update on Nov 16th 2009 - I have been receiving mails and comments for a person who can be contacted for Door 2 approach. One of my friend recently finished the long process and he can be reached at - ramcha675@gmail.com ... Hope that my post now helps people sailing in both boats.... Happy Interning !! once again .. :)
Update on March 17th 2010 - I heard that the US Dept of state issued a fresh skill set from 2009 - http://www.travel.state.gov/visa/temp/types/types_4514.html
Update on Nov 8th 2011 (big update!) - My friend and myself have been getting several mails about the process and also how the blog has been helpful for them. We are happy that all the information we share here is coming to good use.
Dr Anindita Chaudhuri (anichau2001@gmail.com) approached us last year about the Door 2 process - and she was kind enough to share the entire process titled - "J1 (US) waiver for Indian nationals applying from India (non-medical)"
Link - https://docs.google.com/open?id=1Isc_LH0Rlz-G5Z1Ci6G02epMbSf49h-SHQDPXVwSuuOgw5zGVd5it-h85ONt
We thank Anindita for her effort.
Disclaimer: This approach and analysis was purely from what I have gathered from different sources. I do not stand by anyone to get a waiver, even if he/she follows this procedure. There could be different situations which would have lead you to get a J1 Visa. US Waiver Department decides on whether a case should be given or rejected a Waiver. I only wanted to pass the information I know. The same holds with my friend - the Door 2 contact, I have shared. We are not legal advocates - so consider/follow the procedure at your will. Thanks again!
Thanks - Satish Polisetti
You can reach me at - polisettisatish@gmail.com
21 comments:
cool one dude.. definitely useful for some fundoo guys like u.
if u can, increase the font a bit.
helpful!
cant download the letter you send to the dept of state...
@anonymous
I uploaded a scanned copy of the letter which I received. So you could save it as a picture and probably open with Microsoft Picture Manager.
hi
did you submit $215 along with the waiver letter request, DS 2019, I-94 and sponsor letter. I am in a similar situation, my subject does not fall under my country's skill requirement so am wondering which door to take? door 1 or 2?? i just want a quick way out. Also how long did it take for you to get your waiver letter from US government?
Hi Satish
this information is very useful, but i would also request you to give datail of Door 2 steps
Hi Satish,
I came across your post. Could you please point me to your senior, so that i can ask him about the steps for door2. Mine is pretty ironical case. I was in Singapore and had just applied for permanent residency, when my company sent me to USA for 1 year training, i received my PR after 2 months, but since i went to usa, before the PR, i am now subject to the 2 year rule in india instead of singapore, where i dont see my self working in the near future. now i am desperate to get out of this. help me please. its nearly 2 years since it happened.
my e-mail is bp_raju81@yahoo.co.in
Hi Satish, Thanks; very useful information. Could you please point me your senior who had to take no objection certificate from home country before to get two -years home residency waiver. My email address is bristi_132000@yahoo.com.
Hey man, give me more details on how I can apply for the waiver if I my field of study is stated as needed in my country. My email semayat@live.com
Thanks in advance
Hi Satish ,
I went through you blog posted regarding obtaining the J1 visa waiver.It was really helpful.I am a student at a US university pursuing my masters and would like to get a waiver.
Fortunately , I fall under door1 category.But my case is little complicated.I am funded by the singapore government instead of Indian or US gov. and has been subjected to 2 year residency requirement in India.I am not sure what documents I should submit? What does the sponsor letter usually say ? In my case from whom do I get the sponsor letter from ?Do you also need to send some fee or self stamped envelop with the application ? Also long did it take for you to get the waiver?
Please let me know son.I am in US for next three months before my visa expires and I would like complete the waiver process asap.Your help will really be appreciated.My email id is searchingreena@yahoo.com
hi satish,
COuld you pass me the contact to the guy who went through the long procedure to get the waiver.(door 2). I am in a similar situation. I went through door 1 and got a reject. I have to start the 2nd procedure now. Please give me his contact.
Thanks
Raj
My ID:
rajagopals@gmail.com
Hi Can you help me guide about the door 2? I need to find my way out this way since I have got a J1 visa with the 2 year rule
@ Door 2 guys ....
I updated the blog with the mail ID of my friend...who can be contacted to know the process which need to be undertaken for Door 2 approach. Please read the last few lines of my post. Thanks - Satish Polisetti
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Genial brief and this post helped me alot in my college assignement. Say thank you you as your information.
Brim over I assent to but I about the post should have more info then it has.
Hi,
thanks for a nice post.
I was in US as a post doctoral fellow in Astrophysics from 2005-2008 on J1 visa. I got married and came to Canada to live with my husband. We have been living in Canada since past 3 years and I have a Canadian PR. Now my husband is getting transferred to US and we all have to move to US within a year. However, my J1 visa had 2 year home residency requirement. I understand that I have to take no objection letter. I see that one has to fill 4 forms of 'Grant of Waiver Certificate' available from Indian embassy Washington DC website. But they serve only people residing in USA. I could not find any such information in the Indian embassy, Canada. How do I start the process of no objection and which country will do it for me? If Canada will do it for me since I am living here, then who to contact here? Nobody I talked with, seem to know the process.
Thanks
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